Neal: Now, I heard you mention “spiritual” and your book is titled Spiritual Mind Management. Now, in listening to you describe your techniques, your protocols, it doesn’t sounds mystical. It doesn’t sound religious, as it were, although the techniques, the phrases, chant, trance, they do want to think about Eastern medicine or Chinese traditional medicine, things of that nature. Now, when we’re talking about your techniques, what type of reception do you get when you’re describing your techniques to someone that is normally involved in what we term as traditional or Western methods of mental healing?

Dennis: The difference in what I do is that we take a lot of time with the clients. So I mean, most of my sessions are an hour and a half to two hours, and what I’m doing is we’re literally going in and attempting to correct thinking errors. So again, we know that they have this thought process at the conscious level that they want to align their subconscious thinking with, but we have this thinking errors at the subconscious level that again are creating opposing forces within the individual that is not allowing them to move forward.

So it takes time to do that, and so, a session is an hour and a half to two hours. But we can correct a lot of thinking errors in that amount of time, and as this person becomes more aligned in their thought processes, then all of the unwanted emotions and that unwanted electrical content that we talked about dissipates, collapses, is shut off. So now they no longer feel out of sorts for themselves. The best way to explain it might be: Neal, if you get up in the morning and you feel all grumpy, grouchy and irritable, how do you behave?

Neal: I behave grumpy, grouchily, and irritably.

Dennis: Right. So what happens is that that grumpy, grouchy and irritable behavior is coming out of grumpy, grouchy and irritable emotions. Those grumpy, grouchy and irritable emotions are coming out of a memory of an experience from the day before or just recently, and being amplified in their imagination, from their thought processes.

So if you can go in and actually challenge and change and shut down that thought process, which you can through trans access to the thought or hypnosis thought to the thought, once you challenge and change that thought appropriately and completely, now you’ve desensitized the imagination. You’ve altered the perception of the memories, therefore now you’ve collapsed the emotions. So you no longer feel grumpy, grouchy and irritable, so now how do you behave? Differently.

Neal: Differently. But my question is when you’re discussing the benefits of your healing modalities, what type of reception, in your experience, have you received from members of traditional medicine?

Dennis: I get all kinds of reactions, just like you would think. Because a lot of the things that I teach are things that I’ve learned through observation over 25 years of doing it. And the science behind what I’m talking about has not been fully done yet. And so a lot of the scientific community want to challenge some thoughts and so on. But there are people that are coming on board with it to a great degree.

For example, Dr. Debbie Cruz from Arizona State University – I work with her off and on, and we work with professional collegiate athletes and so on with these processes. Dr. Dan Kaufmann [sp] from University of Utah and the migraine pain clinic there is now starting to utilize some of these things, and just went through our school, those kinds of things. So there are people out there who are gravitating to this and are finding the benefit of it, and finding out that what I’m actually saying when used correctly is true.

That people can control their thought processes in a way that eliminates unwanted emotions and old feelings, which now alters their behavior, because now they don’t feel negative or grumpy, grouchy, irritable. Their behavior is automatically changed to new, more positive, appropriate behaviors.

Neal: As we wrap up this segment, the title of your book, Spiritual Mind Management – I’d like to ask a question that could delve into a little bit of controversy. Do your techniques require a religious or spiritual belief, and if so, if whether they do or not, do they ever require a shattering of someone’s belief as you gain access to that space between the conscious and the subconscious?

Dennis: Not as far as their religious belief and what they believe God to be like or what their God is or those kinds of things. I’ve never found anybody that disagrees with the basic premise of what I’m talking about here, that everybody has a spiritual mind. We know that something leaves us when we die. We know there’s part of us in us that animates us as human beings. And when that part of us that animates us as human beings leaves, we call that death, and the body is no longer animated.

So I’ve never had anybody disagree with that premise, and if there’s something in the body that animates us, then there’s also something in our … we call that our spirit generally. I call that our spirits in our body. And so if we have our spirit, then our spirit must have a mind that actually is directing the brain, because the brain isn’t the spirit. The brain is the main organism in the body that drives the body.

So what we’re proposing is that our spiritual mind drives the brain, and then the brain drives the body for these improvements. So we’re learning how to work with our spiritual mind that actually causes improvements within those processes that now affect the body. And how do we know we get those effects from the body? Because people shut down pain. They shut down allergies. They improve their physical health. They shut down allergies.

We teach people how to use their spiritual mind and adjust the brain, is the only way I can say it to you, through these electrical energy frequencies that are generated through thoughts, and they receive all kinds of healing benefits that I’ve observed for 25 years. And we’ll just have to wait until science kind of catches up to what’s actually going on in that process, because clients get to experience the benefits of it every day.

Neal: All right. So if I’m hearing you correctly, and I do believe I am, a client doesn’t have to worry about their basic beliefs in self or in how the cosmos operates in order to benefit from your scientific methods of basically dealing with the organ that generates thought and not what animates the body. So that fear of their belief system being tampered with would never be a factor as far as coming to the Certified Hypnotherapy Training school, yeah?

Dennis: No, not at all. I mean the very fact that we’re human beings, we all function basically the same. On the outside we all look different, but that’s why doctors know where to go to find your heart, right?

Neal: Absolutely. [laughs]